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Post by Drew RZR 800 on Nov 8, 2007 10:13:07 GMT -5
For the first times since I have been riding I got water in the oil ( not bad for 7 years ) . One buddy kept telling me I needed to get Sea Foam . I added the Sea Foam to the allready water logged oil and let it Idle till warm then drained , Repeated once with a new filter and oil has no Water residue . I had plenty of people tell me to use diesel , but it is a dirty fuel . Sea Foam ( after reading the label ) will also work on Deisel , gas , Oil , gear oil . Seems the trick no is to run this in my oil incase of a mishap , rear end oils and grease, gas . It is expensive ( one can was almost as much as 2 quarts of oil ( synthetic ) ) but I am pleased with the result .
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Post by DarylJ on Nov 8, 2007 10:15:38 GMT -5
I have used it for years and like it
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Post by Randy_R on Nov 8, 2007 13:33:36 GMT -5
Looked it up on the web. Reminds me of Marvel Mystery Oil. It says it takes moisture out so it definitely seemd to be a good choice. I'll have to remember it even though I have no desire to sink my Cat.
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Post by DarylJ on Nov 8, 2007 15:43:58 GMT -5
Randy, you can use it before water gets in too It also removes water from fuel if you ever get any bad gas (no jokes about WV food)
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Nov 12, 2007 9:44:24 GMT -5
Drew, I don't know anything about the seafoam, but diesel cannot be a dirty fuel. If it was dirty, fuel injectors would be clogged and pistons would get scarred. Diesel engines run for hundreds of thousands of miles. Diesel does work well to get the water out. It works more quickly than just oil changes. If you just change your oil, you'll have to do it 5 times to get the water out. One run of diesel, and one oil change is my understanding. Saves time as well as oil. Of course if you need to start a fire later.....the used oil works well for that.
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Post by DarylJ on Nov 12, 2007 9:56:30 GMT -5
I think peoples thinking that diesel is dirty comes from the fact that it has lubricants in it, in a sense oil mixed in. Some people might consider that dirty but its not. As a matter of fact thats part of what makes it a good choice to use to get water out, it still lubricates the inside of the engine(very poorly but some)
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Post by Drew RZR 800 on Nov 12, 2007 10:17:11 GMT -5
Sorry Matt , maybe I should think of it this way , Diesel is not Synthetic , Polaris clutches use pure Synthetic and I was thinging of Diesel as a " Dirty oil " to put in that enviroment . I went with sea foam becase is works with Synthetic oil and all others including Diesel . It only took 2 oil changes to get the oil back to looking good , but I was lucky that there was only a small amont in there . You guys go a lot deeper and get a lot more water in them engines than I ever hope too. I hear about the Diesel and just decided to try this and it worked well .
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Post by DarylJ on Nov 12, 2007 10:19:59 GMT -5
I did some digging around since I am doing nothing else right now. It seems the dirty concept comes from the sulfur content, not from actually contaminated. But now its all "ultra low sulfur" here is from one article I read
"Diesel is a petroleum-based fuel with a high energy content, which helps it go further per gallon than other fuels. However, traditional diesel fuel can be very dirty. A new generation of diesel technology is being adopted which is much cleaner than its original counterpart.
What makes diesel fuel dirty is its sulfur content, which clogs exhaust-control devices in diesel-based engines. Recently developed ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD) fuel removes a large majority of the sulfur, allowing the fuel to burn more efficiently than its dirty predecessor.
According to Steve Ciatta, Ph.D., Engine Research Scientist at the Argonne National Laboratory, the challenge for diesel engines is how they handle oxides of nitrogen (NOx) and particulate matter.
“Diesel vehicles are not what you remember at all,” Ciatta said. “Carbon dioxide (CO2) and fuel efficiency are very good with diesel technology.”
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Nov 12, 2007 19:54:53 GMT -5
Drew, good to hear the Sea Foam works. That is all that matters.
Btw, diesel does not have the lubricants that it used too.....whoops....just as Daryl mentions. Really need to start thinking of putting additives back into diesel with the new ULSD. Been hearing of increased injector and injection pump pump failure in fleet use with the new ULSD. You can still get the old #2 from what I understand at truck stops. I'm going to have to pay attention. I only fuel at truck stops if I can help it.....80 gallons at a time. Fresher fuel and I don't recall seeing any ULSD decals at the truck stop yet. I don't think it is mandated until 2010. Sorry for getting off on a tangent.
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