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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Oct 11, 2011 15:59:42 GMT -5
Wondering on this picture what y'all think these vents are on the backside of the Wildcat? Do you think they could be factory snorkels or just venting for the engine? Attachments:
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Post by Bob T on Oct 11, 2011 17:17:07 GMT -5
Vents or aesthetics. Way to low for snorkels.
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Post by Randy_R on Oct 11, 2011 17:44:01 GMT -5
The wildcat is in ATV magazine this month. The vents behind the drivers head is snorkels and the radiator fan outlet. The front is just steering and front diff.
It really is a neat design. The center radiator blowing back should keep it clean. Slow driving will probably be hot....
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Post by Drew RZR 800 on Oct 12, 2011 18:12:01 GMT -5
Someone told me this weekend it will be as long as the RZR 4 but for a 2 seater ....
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Oct 12, 2011 19:19:39 GMT -5
Someone told me this weekend it will be as long as the RZR 4 but for a 2 seater .... Hmmm, that's a little long but if it rides good and can make the turns on the switchbacks, who cares. That said, the length will factor into the geometry of being able to make those turns. Hope the turning radius of the steering is tight.....the power steering might actually limit that some. If that lenght is true, it might make it strictly a dune machine, which is what it appeared to me to be from the beginning. Might be why 99% of the photos and videos of it are in the dunes. Hope not though, I'd love to have another option for WV riding.
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Oct 12, 2011 20:49:27 GMT -5
Ok, I have to admit that I did a search for Arctic Cat dealer in NC..... ;D
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Post by Randy_R on Oct 12, 2011 21:23:53 GMT -5
Midway Yamaha Suzuki Arctic Cat in Tville. Note that the first wildcats will have issues with something. That is normal Arctic Cat. They build stout stuff (best tranny in business) but are lacking the $$$ to always test enough (just an opinion).
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Post by Drew RZR 800 on Oct 13, 2011 13:41:32 GMT -5
Someone told me this weekend it will be as long as the RZR 4 but for a 2 seater .... Hmmm, that's a little long but if it rides good and can make the turns on the switchbacks, who cares. That said, the length will factor into the geometry of being able to make those turns. Hope the turning radius of the steering is tight.....the power steering might actually limit that some. If that lenght is true, it might make it strictly a dune machine, which is what it appeared to me to be from the beginning. Might be why 99% of the photos and videos of it are in the dunes. Hope not though, I'd love to have another option for WV riding. Yea I was really interested to see one up close , The Rick ( Rhino rider ) told me about the length , I was really supprised at the length , that is really at a car length and width , but still plan to go check one out .
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Oct 13, 2011 15:33:53 GMT -5
Hmmm, that's a little long but if it rides good and can make the turns on the switchbacks, who cares. That said, the length will factor into the geometry of being able to make those turns. Hope the turning radius of the steering is tight.....the power steering might actually limit that some. If that lenght is true, it might make it strictly a dune machine, which is what it appeared to me to be from the beginning. Might be why 99% of the photos and videos of it are in the dunes. Hope not though, I'd love to have another option for WV riding. Yea I was really interested to see one up close , The Rick ( Rhino rider ) told me about the length , I was really supprised at the length , that is really at a car length and width , but still plan to go check one out . I rewatched one of the youtube video's and they did a walk around of it. It really didn't appear to be that long. But then again, the RZR is pretty short. Not sure it would be a big deal if it was a little longer than the RZR. A little longer frame might make it less likely to roll forward after a jump like I've seen a few RZR's do. Obviously both have enough horsepower to get off the ground......unlike my ride ......lol ;D.
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Post by Randy_R on Oct 13, 2011 15:39:39 GMT -5
The wildcat is the same length as a Rhino. My Rhino was 120" and so is the widcat. The Wildcat is 64" wide. The 1300 lbs is similar to a loaded Rhino but lighter than a Commander. Looks like a great platform to me! www.arcticcat.com/sidexside/model/view/WILDCAT
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Post by Drew RZR 800 on Oct 13, 2011 16:58:54 GMT -5
Looks like I was told wrong , sorry guys .... But it is going to need bumpers , so maybe that will add some length .
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Oct 14, 2011 17:10:15 GMT -5
Looks like I was told wrong , sorry guys .... But it is going to need bumpers , so maybe that will add some length . I agree on the bumpers. Maybe that will help the looks as well. Haven't been reading great things about the Prowler 1000 reliability though.
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Post by Randy_R on Oct 14, 2011 17:29:25 GMT -5
Arctic Cat's first self built motor was the 650 H1. They moved up to the twin 1000 several years after. The 1000 was supposed to be very profitable but cost them huge on repairs. Power takes lots of engineering. My understanding is that the 1000 is now reliable. It took 3 years to get it right.
My concern on the Wildcat is suspension components especially axles. 17" of wheel travel means that CV joint is doing lots of moving. Those axles better be way overbuilt. I know on my Rhino I losty 1 axle and really believe it was due to the 1.5" lift and stiffer rear springs -- the angle change caused lots of stress.
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Oct 15, 2011 9:24:24 GMT -5
Arctic Cat's first self built motor was the 650 H1. They moved up to the twin 1000 several years after. The 1000 was supposed to be very profitable but cost them huge on repairs. Power takes lots of engineering. My understanding is that the 1000 is now reliable. It took 3 years to get it right. My concern on the Wildcat is suspension components especially axles. 17" of wheel travel means that CV joint is doing lots of moving. Those axles better be way overbuilt. I know on my Rhino I losty 1 axle and really believe it was due to the 1.5" lift and stiffer rear springs -- the angle change caused lots of stress. True, angle change does cause problems. Hub flips on the rear was very common on Grizzly's to get a couple inches of lift in the rear. This caused an angle issue and breaking axles. The best way to do it was to put a real lift on it and that's why I have a Gorilla lift on mine.
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Post by DarylJ on Oct 31, 2011 11:01:20 GMT -5
I am copying and pasting this from someone I know who has some serious riding skills and I trust his judgement. A little disappointing but makes me feel better for getting my rzr LOL He got to drive the thing for 3 hours!
"Well...If they would have let me take it up something that required 4X4 I would give an opinion ( and if it performed good maybe bought one) But as for issues on the course we took. The shifter does'nt have a "catch" for each gear, going up one hill I somehow knocked it (by barely bumping it) from high to low,tried to pull it back to high and went to neutral, could'nt feel any indents had to look at the display to see where I was at! Mud all over...needs protection! On the paved road the steering wandered! Noise and vibrations were terrible for a new machine! Never got to try out the 4X4!!!! So now I'm not as interested as I was!!!!"
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Oct 31, 2011 14:36:05 GMT -5
I am copying and pasting this from someone I know who has some serious riding skills and I trust his judgement. A little disappointing but makes me feel better for getting my rzr LOL He got to drive the thing for 3 hours! "Well...If they would have let me take it up something that required 4X4 I would give an opinion ( and if it performed good maybe bought one) But as for issues on the course we took. The shifter does'nt have a "catch" for each gear, going up one hill I somehow knocked it (by barely bumping it) from high to low,tried to pull it back to high and went to neutral, could'nt feel any indents had to look at the display to see where I was at! Mud all over...needs protection! On the paved road the steering wandered! Noise and vibrations were terrible for a new machine! Never got to try out the 4X4!!!! So now I'm not as interested as I was!!!!" Good info Daryl. I saw some video's on youtube where camera's were mounted near each wheel to show wheel travel, etc. The thing that got to me was hearing a lot of noise. Sounded like gear noise, but might have been tire roar (looked like 489's on it). What I also noticed is that I didn't hear engine noise over the roar so I was thinking the engine/exhaust might be pretty quiet. I was worried about mud getting slung all over. The way that thing is built, not sure if you can get much protection over around the wheels to keep the mud slinging down. Lots of open area around those front wheels, not to mention if you do find an add on for protection, it's going to make it that much wider.
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Post by DarylJ on Oct 31, 2011 15:23:26 GMT -5
The pics he posted had him and the SXS COVERED in mud, I don't think he could have gotten more mud on him as a matter of fact.
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Post by Matt H (aka Tiger Rag) on Oct 31, 2011 21:55:31 GMT -5
The pics he posted had him and the SXS COVERED in mud, I don't think he could have gotten more mud on him as a matter of fact. And that ain't good for nobody!
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